You are using an out of date browser. Stable and accurate out to 1400. C&R Eligible ; Ammunition . 1 Mil equals .36 inches at 100 yards, while 1 MOA equals 1.047 inches at 100 yards. If you want to compromise on weight and cost then perhaps a 3 or 3b Bart. The free floating, threaded barrels are all 24”, with 5R rifling. Big fan of the proof's but I would rather put the extra $500 a Proof cost towards glass and go with a Bartlien. I agree with mud on the proof if weight is a concern. or .270 Win., it blends the best attributes of the two, with better velocities than the .30-06 can offer, and heavier bullet choices than are available in the .270. I think you have to think about the ranges that you plan to shoot with it. and with a little more velocity and better bullet selection today I can't complain. FOGGER FOGGER Advanced Member; Members; 240 posts; Gender: Male; … For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Local Storage in your browser. You must log in or register to reply here. 09-22-2009, 12:29 PM #2. A 280 AI can safely fire 280 Remington ammunition, simultaneously fire-forming brass cases to … Residual energy just isn’t there. My .280 has since been converted to .280 Ack. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year., Coyote Hunting - From 10 Yards to over 1,000 Yards. I got an 8" twist so I can run 177g Hammer Hunters if I ever felt the need. I built a 280 AI a year ago and after weighing the pros and cons decided it would fit my needs. 280 Remington Load Data; 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data ; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data; 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 … Anyone shooting the 280Ackley at long range that could give me some pointers? A boattail design with … For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. With 140 grains at 3200 FPS and 180 grains at 2800+, it seems to be able to bring the speed and KE needed without stepping up to a magnum round, while still maintaining decent barrel life (2500+ rounds). Aug 12, 2013 #6 Hi ambelin ,,,,I have a 30-07 variant that I have great results with,,,it is one of the largest cap. It is chambered in .260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .308 Win. 280 Improved @ 1000 yds Since nobody answered you, I will, however I don't have a 280 Improved but a fellow shooter uses one that has a 35 degree shoulder instead of the … Think of it as a .280 AI Improved. During the nearly 50 years I’ve enjoyed handloading, I’ve experimented with several wildcats, including a few of Ackley’s, such as the .257 AI and the .280 AI. And well it should be as its performance puts it between the .280 Remington on the slower side and the faster 7mm Remington Magnum.. Data shown in the sixth edition of the Nosler reloading manual for the standard .280 and the .280 … For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Nosler Custom 140 gr. Same with barrel length as I won't be "humping it around the countryside". Also loaded some 195 Berger EH @ 2765fps that shoot 0.5 moa as well. Also stock up on ammo and gun accessories for your 280 Ackley Improved rifle. That the .280 AI can be built on a standard long action with a 30-06/.270 bolt face and magazine box is an added bonus. My load for my 280 ai in a 24" runs a 168 vld at 2980 fps. My shot was only about 100 yds on a bull and he crashed within 100 yds. Please correct me if I am mistaken. It gives up some energy to the 7mm RM but no a lot. View Profile View Forum Posts Registered User Join Date Feb 2004 Location Pennsylvania Posts 247. The best long-range hunting cartridges fire high-BC bullets fast enough to remain supersonic out to at least 1,400 yards. The RIVAL is proudly made in the USA . If you want something a bit unique with a definite cool factor, give the .280 Ackley Improved a long look. The.280 AI challenges the 7mm Rem. Although I plan to run the 143g Hammer Hunter. For chasing antelope or predators, 120-grain bullets like the ballistic tip scream along at … Handguns . 60 grains H4831SC, WRL primers at 2950 FPS with very low SD. The 6.5 Creedmoor is a wonderful long-range target cartridge, accurate and easy to shoot. This will give me all I need to 700-800y. Just like with all of our Fierce centerfire rifles the Rival comes with our flagship .50 MOA guarantee. Shop online for the best selection and prices of 280 Ackley Improved rifles at Hinterland Outfitters. Dec 14, 2016 #7 I have a 280 AI that loves Berger 168's over RL 22. FEATURED LONG GUN Italian M91 Carcano GET YOURS. My latest foray into experimenting with a wildcat round came about accidentally. It may not display this or other websites correctly. a good 700 hart bbl 9 twist will shoot in the .300's. (7mm-08, 270, 280 Rem, 7mm Rem Mag) Also, what twist would you recommend, 1:8 or 1:7.5? Can any of you .280 shooters tell the diff between the standard, and the AI from a velocity, or accuracy standpoint? I just got my 22" Proof sendero light barrel in for my 280ai. I used my Rem. I have a 26" barrel on mine and with 180gr bullets get between 2750-2800 fps and no pressure signs. The.280 Ackley has panache to spare. cases that is available without going to a mag. Judging distance between you, your target, and various estimation points are critical when it comes to long-range shooting. This is going to be screwed onto a win model 70 long action. If you are hand loading you could git a 180gr 30-06 to almost 3,000 fps. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. Gunwerks' Mike and Aaron Davidson take their good friends Todd Sholly and Curt Pilcher to the honey hole for Elk. At 140 grains in the .280 Ackley Improved load, the E-Tip features an Expansion Control Ring (ECR) to help the projectile expand at various velocities and conditions, giving shooters the long- and close-range performance needed for lethality. Will also have a small PK brake. 280 AI shoots 50 fps to 100 fps faster than the 280 Remington with the same bullets in the same standard-length actions. Decided to try RL26 in the 280 AI I just back from Cooper with a new barrel. But, if you want true 7mmRM performance from a standard LA cartridge, the .280 Sherman is where you need to look. Recommended Posts. Handguns | View All >> (5075 Products) Military Surplus; AR/AK Pistols; Semi-Auto; Concealed Carry; 1911; Revolvers; Derringers; Subguns; Black Powder; Serialized Pistol Frames; FEATURED HANDGUN Zigana PX-9 SHOP NOW. Seat the bullet well into the rifling so that it makes good contact with the lands when the cartridge is chambered. The .280 Ackley Improved has been basking in the limelight since Nosler started chambering its Model 48 rifle for it and offering loaded ammo and unprimed cases. the 2 280AI which i have experience with have been outstanding, you dont need more than a 140 at 3140fpx to take a Ga deer over a bean field. I have worked up an acceptable 140 gr accubond load for my 280 ai (1 in 9, twist 25 inch barrel). It is popular enough that Nosler both chambers its fine rifles in.280 AI and produces.280 AI in its custom line of ammunition, as well as providing component brass for handloaders that would rather not take the time to fireform cases. It is not an equally wonderful long-range hunting cartridge, especially on game larger than deer. It will primarily be used on whitetail. Followers 0. Dan Conzo. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. JD338 _____ Speed sells but Accuracy kills. This holds the case against the bolt face and eliminates case stretching in the web area, a cause of case head separation. Pretty much a varmint bullet up close!! JavaScript is disabled. Reactions: hdxr750. germanlongbow Scott M Bainbridge. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. Lonnie . What could you expect for barrel life on the 280 Sherman? I do not handload but looking at hornady's 180gr superformance 30-06 loads, I was thinking that handloaders could git it at lest a little over 2,900 fps. I loaded 35 rounds total for break in and load development RL26 CCI200 Nosler Brass Berger 168 seated .005 jam I cleaned the barrel before shooting any rounds Mounted the scope, looked through the bore and adjusted scope to center of bore at 100 yards. Standard Rem Long action with Lilja 1x9 … Meanwhile, an Energy Expansion Cavity provides dual chamber for uniform, impressive expansion and devastating penetration. In my opinion the two biggest things to remember about Ackley Improved cartridges and long range shooting is that neither are necessary to be a successful hunter. The 700 PCR is set in the Magpul PRS Gen 3 chassis, a Teflon coated chassis paired with an aluminum handguard, and magpul pistol grip. 280 Ackley Improved Powder Minimum Maximum Charge (grains) Velocity (fps) Charge (grains) Velocity (fps) IMR 4350 46.3 2421 51.4 2677 Hunter 48.2 2499 53.6 2707 H4831sc 50.1 2474 55.7 2694 Power Pro 4000MR 49.1 2467 54.6 2740 *RL 22 48.3 2533 53.7 2715 IMR 7828ssc 49.0 2467 54.5 2702 RECOMMENDED TWIST: 1:9” OR FASTER 280 Ackley Improved Suggested Bullet Use 175-grain TSX FB … I am in the market to build my next hunting rifle. Local Storage seems to be disabled in your browser. Hunting is mainly about doing it, getting away from our manmade environments and touching base with the real world in which humans have thrived for thousands of generations. I would like to shoot 160 grain accubonds at 2900 FPS or more if I can get same accuracy. I've heard that the standard .280 is pretty accurate. Mag. By FOGGER, December 9, 2017 in Rifles, Reloading and Gunsmithing. Shooting 280 AI with vektor recoil brake using Contour camera and panasonic camera. AccuBond outshot reloads in the accuracy department. Firearms, Long Range Shooting, and Reloading ; Rifles, Reloading and Gunsmithing ; 280 AI load data. The Fierce Rival is designed-and-built to be the perfect long and short-range hunting rifle for every hunter. If you're going to have to fire-form brass anyway, might as well bump up the performance by going with a wildcat. I've shot magnum calibers for years, with a preference for the 340 Wby but my shoulder and I have moved past that. However I would like to have the ability to use it on mulies and elk. Before I pull the trigger, I wanted to get some first hand opinions on the 280 AI and how it compares to relatively similar calibers. extended range ammo. The combination of high BC’s combined with mild recoil, have made the .280 and .280 Ackley Improved wildcat, highly favored cartridges for long range hunters wanting to build light and set limits on recoil accordingly, recoil to both the shooter and rifle platform. Prev; 1; 2; Next; Page 1 of 2 . I will probably stay with the 160+ grain bullets. After all Carlos Hathcock used it as a sniper round. Do you feel a 26'' Barrel is a necessity? No problem. Looking at a 6-700 yard rifle for mule deer and elk at closer ranges. Long range target but without having to go to a "magnum". Most factory 280 Rem ammo is in the 140-150gr range but there are some in the 160gr+ range. Handloaders can make the.280 AI do things that the.280 Rem. The model 700 PCR is one made for long range shooting. For now I will drop it back into the old factory stock. expiper. Imp. Can any of you .280 shooters tell the diff between the standard, and the AI from a velocity, or accuracy standpoint? H1000 with the 195 Berger best long range gong shooting combo I found, but don't use them for hunting at close ranges, (under 5-600 yards). My goals are modest. simply can’t. GET THE MAGAZINE Subscribe & Save Noslers Rock . It will keep its blind mag. 280 Remington chambers can be easily converted to 280 AI. Weight is no issue. The .280 is also suitable for high power long range competition however recoil and throat wear are considered extreme in comparison to currently … I gess I will never try handloading if I cant beat the factory speeds. 270 vs 280 vs 280 AI vs 7mm Rem Mag Ammo Selection. I can get over 3000 FPS with this powder but groups open from .38 to .75 MOA or a bit more. Ammunition | View All >> (5778 Products) Rimfire Ammo; Shotshell Buckshot … M700 .280 on my first elk hunt about 10 years ago using Remington 165gr. ballistically and is more pleasant to shoot. I've done a lot of talking about long range shooting on this and other forums, sometimes I get the vibe that some folks think I can't actually walk the walk. You must log in or register to reply here. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. There are also a number of companies chambering.280 AI production rifles—including Kimber, Savage and Nosler. Should be able to get close to 3200fps. After alot of research, the 280 AI seems to be the caliber that checks the most boxes. 280 AI load data. If you are hand loading you could git a 180gr 30-06 to almost 3,000 fps. After alot of research, the 280 AI seems to be the caliber that checks the most boxes. .280 AI is a great round. Ya just gotta love the 280 AI. JavaScript is disabled. While both Mil (milliradians) and MOA (minute of angle) are acceptable measuring systems for scopes, which should you choose? Facebook; Twitter; Instagram; Youtube; Sign in to follow this . We give you the best custom rifle at a price that is affordable and worth every penny of your hard-earned dollar. Long Range Shooting Log Book: Practice Notebook / Handbook | 150 pages, 6"x9" | Record target shooting data | Gift for shooters | Shot recordings and target diagrams Journal: Shooting Range Target Practice Sheet Yellow Bullseye Black Lined Notebook Writing Diary - 120 Pages 6 x 9 One of the better groups shot from the author’s custom.280 AI. Next year it will go into a McMillan Game Warden edge fill. They start off as standard numbers — in this … With 140 grains at 3200 FPS and 180 grains at 2800+, it seems to be able to bring the speed and KE needed without stepping up to a magnum round, while still maintaining decent barrel life (2500+ rounds). I was just wondering if the hassle of obtaining, or forming AI brass was worth having the AI over the standard. Select a light load of a relatively fast powder (IMR4895 is great) from the standard.280 Remington data. While it doesn’t have the popularity of the .30-06 Sprg. Improved cartridges are commonly associated with the wildcat family. The true beauty of this round is its versatility. I would like to shoot bullets in the 160gr+ range.