Copyright © 2020 Big Game Hunting Adventures LLC | All Rights Reserved. 8 posts • Page 1 of 1. Depending on the exact model, 20″, 22″ and 24″ barrels are very common for all three cartridges. Chuck Hawks provided the case capacity for each cartridge. “It’s got bullets from 110 grains to 220 grains and will kill whatever you point it at. Mag. Yes I took down my first elk at 150 yards with a .243, but I had been shooting every day for almost 6 years and new that particular gun’s strengths and weaknesses. The 308 will only beat it in( popularity) in this day and time. All other things being equal, a bigger bullet will make a bigger hole, cause more tissue damage, and result in more blood loss. The superior ballistic coefficient of the 7mm-08 Remington helps give that cartridge an advantage over the two other cartridges in terms of wind drift. Shot placement is always important, but it’s even more vital when using a smaller cartridge like the .243 Winchester for hunting elk and other really large game. Even though the cartridges share the same roots, there is a pretty big difference in the ballistics of each cartridge that reflects the different priorities wildcatters had when designing the .243 and 7mm-08. In addition to the abundant ammunition choices available in .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester, there are also many quality rifles manufactured in these cartridges. Most shooters should be able to handle the recoil of all three cartridges, but the .243 Winchester has a big advantage in this respect. The Big Game Hunting Blog is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.ca, Amazon.com.au, and other Amazon stores worldwide. IMO, the 7mm-08 Remington provides the best balance of mild recoil, a flat trajectory, resistance to the wind, and plenty of killing power with good shot placement. The 7mm-08 is an excellent cartridge for everything you might want to hunt in North America, except for big Alaskan browns. However, the .308 Winchester loads compared here have about 5-20% more muzzle energy (94-474 ft-lbs) than the 7mm-08 loads and 30-65% more muzzle energy (666-94-1,109 ft-lbs) than the .243 Winchester loads. This article cleared up some very good points I have been pondering. Buy an excellent .308 Winchester hunting rifle here. Jon has preached the virtues of the 7mm for as long as I can remember, including developing his own cartridge for the bore diameter. I own both a .308 and a 7mm-08, and hopefully later this year, a 7×57 Mauser as well. Don’t underestimate the impact that recoil has on the ability of a person to shoot accurately either. In a 0.308 round in use, 7mm-08 takes a close second place in polarity with 0.243 Winchester is taking the first spot. Let’s take a closer look. Calibres, cartridges, ballistics tables and ammunition information. i shoot left handed and want a left hand bolt action. This compares favorably to 150 grain, 165 grain, and 180 grain .308″ bullets which have sectional densities of .226, .248, and .271 respectively. They’re both more than powerful enough to ethically take deer sized game, but if you can handle the little bit of extra recoil (consider a recoil pad if necessary), go with the 7mm-08 Remington for added flexibility for hunting big game. 271 respectively. If we take a look at the cartridge specs of the 7mm Rem Mag vs.30-06, we see that there are some key differences that are going to influence how these rounds behave. What are some disadvantages and advantages of each. With the flattest trajectory and mildest recoil of the three, the .243 Winchester has a definite edge in those two categories. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. The .244/6mm Remington was not a commercial success for the company, but Remington got the chance for redemption a few decades later when they finally legitimized another wildcat derivative of the .308 Winchester. If I had to choose between the three, it would be the .308. Go with the low recoil .243 Winchester or 7mm-08 Remington cartridges. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .308 Winchester ammo rounds. The old 300 H & H come out for the Elk hunts. I was very intrigued by this round and never heard of it. However… I do have experience with the 7mm-08 as well… and I believe it’s about the best of the bunch to tackle all needs as far as hunting the lower 48. Buy Reviews On A 7mm Vs A 308 Rifle And Ruger 308 Precision Rifle Long Range Scope Reviews On A 7mm Vs A 308 Rifle And Ruger 308 Precision Rifle Long Range Scop The European 7x57 Mauser made a definite impression upon the U.S. in the Spanish-American War, and the case was the basis for the Springfield cartridges, but that 7mm bore diameter made a splash across Europe, Britain and the respective colonies. The .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester are all excellent rifle cartridges, albeit ones with very different strengths and weaknesses. Cause i like how the .308 has a shorter barrel. But what’s in a name? I’d spend a bunch of time behind the trigger of the .308 and .300 Winchester, as well as the .300 H&H, with no complaints whatsoever. I was raised as a congregant of the Church of .30 Caliber. The 7mm-08 loads have around 20-45% more muzzle energy (415-792 ft-lbs)than the .243 loads. Similar to the difference between the 7-30 Waters and the .30-30 Winchester (or the .25-06 and the .30-06), by necking down the .308 case to shoot smaller caliber bullets, the designers of the .243 Winchester built a cartridge with a higher velocity, flatter trajectory, and less recoil than the .308 Winchester. This has to be about the best, least biased comparison on these cartridges on the internet today. Additionally, I recorded an entire podcast episode on this exact subject. I think I’m bringing my 9.3×62 with me, though I’m still toying with the idea of my 6.5×55 or my 7mm-08. For example, when fired from a Ruger American rifle, a 140gr Nosler Partition from the 7mm-08 has nearly 75% more free recoil energy than a .243 Winchester load firing an 85gr Nosler partition. I also know hunters and shooters who are equally fervent about the 7mm bore diameter. The 7mm-08 Remington also generally uses higher SD and higher BC bullets that will penetrate deeper and more reliably, resist wind drift better, and do a better job of retaining energy at longer range than the .308 or .243. They’re outstanding for hunting small to medium sized game, but all three cartridges are also perfectly capable of doing the job on bigger game as well. It has less recoil and a flatter trajectory than the .308, but is more powerful and uses larger and heavier bullets than the .243. Finally, typical .308 Winchester factory loads use bullets in the 110-180 grain range. If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. It’s a great hunting cartridge, but on the light side for elk sized (or bigger) game. Looking at bullet weight, the 7mm offers bullets ranging between 100 grains and 195 grains (though a fast twist rate is required for the latter). A premium quality bullet from any of these cartridges will cleanly and quickly take bigger and tougher game like elk, black bear, and even moose at reasonable range. When I violated church doctrine by purchasing a .375 H&H Magnum, I received a proper scolding, as in dad’s mind, nothing more or less than .30-caliber was needed. Yes, I’m really nitpicking the strengths and weaknesses of the these cartridges. 308″ bullets which have sectional densities of . However, keep in mind that all of these cartridges, but particularly the .243 Winchester, are in a completely different league from heavy hitters like the 7mm Mag and .300 Win Mag though. At long range, the 7mm Magnum bullet will have more knock down power than the .308 and will have more shoulder recoil (sometimes much more recoil) depending upon the loads (amount of powder and weight of the bullet slug to be shot). Finally, the 7mm-08 Remington strikes a good balance: it uses a larger and heavier bullet that carries more energy downrange than the .243 Winchester, but has a whole lot less recoil than the .308 Winchester. Typical .308 bullets have more frontal surface area and carry more energy down range though. The big ammunition manufacturers like Barnes, Browning, Federal Premium, Hornady, Nosler, Remington, and Winchester all produce a variety of quality .243 Win, 7mm-08 Rem, and .308 Win factory ammunition suitable for hunting. The data used to compare the trajectory of the cartridges was obtained from Hornady (here, here, and here), Nosler (here, here, and here), and Winchester. For the distances that most hunters are able to shoot accurately and ethically, around 250-300 yards, heavier bullets like Norma Oryx 156, Nosler’s Accubond and Partition 160 gr, and Swift’s A-Frame 160 gr would be preferable, especially for larger-bodied deer like mulie, elk, and moose; and for black bear. Prices and availability vary, but ammunition for all three cartridges is widely available. I’ve been hunting with a 243 for antelope, mule deer, and Coyotes since 1975, but as much as I love that gun, I would never use it for Elk. Experiments with necking down the .308 to shoot smaller, .243″ bullets yielded one of the first (if not the very first) cartridges descended from the .308 Winchester in 1955: the .243 Winchester. The .30-06 Springfield has been one of the most popular and effective hunting cartridges in North America ever since it first hit the civilian market in the early years of the 20th Century. 7mm isn’t 7mm; it is actually 7.21mm. 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After all, there’s a reason why they are such popular North American big game hunting cartridges. EXCELLENT job!! If you’d rather listen than read, you can either just press play below or click the appropriate link to download the episode through your preferred service. The original 7.62x51mm M80 ball load fired a .308″ 147 grain full metal jacket (FMJ) bullet at 2,750 feet per second (2,469 foot pounds of energy). Are you very small framed or extremely sensitive to recoil? Some people do handle recoil better than others, but all other things being equal, they will absolutely shoot more accurately with a milder recoiling cartridge. The .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester have all seen extensive use during practical and/or long range shooting competitions. Predator and varmint rounds like the Hornady V-Max and Nosler Varmageddon are also commonly available for the .243 Winchester. They also meet the minimum caliber and bullet energy requirements for legally hunting deer sized game in just about every state and province in the United States and Canada. Felt recoil will vary from shooter to shooter and rifle to rifle, but free recoil energy is still a useful way to compare cartridges. Since they use the same diameter bullet as other popular cartridges like the 6mm Remington, the .240 Weatherby, the 7mm Mauser, the .280 Remington, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the .30-30 Winchester, the .300 Winchester Magnum, the .300 Ultra Magnum, and the 300 PRC, there is an excellent bullet selection of .243″, .284″, and .308″ caliber bullets of various weights and styles to choose from. Good luck! There is more to the story than just comparing the external ballistic performance of each cartridge though. Their shared heritage is evident and the three cartridges are identical up to the shoulder. Depending on where you grew up, who your influences are, and what you were exposed to, you may sit firmly in one camp or the other. Lastly what is the max range for each. Those traits give hunters a tiny bit more room for error in shot placement when compared to the .243 Winchester and 7mm-08 Remington. The 308 is essentially a shortened version of the 30-06 Springfield cartridge used by the U.S. Military from 1906 through the late 1950s. Is the 7mm rem mag a short action ? It still seems that every new hunting rifle that is released is initially available in .30-06 Springfield; it remains a staple in our industry. Thanks for your comment Sam. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? Mag. So where do we stand overall with these cartridges? A few years later, he added a Winchester Model 100 autoloader—again in .308 Winchester—for additional firepower on deer drives. And .308 isn’t 7.62mm, it’s 7.82mm. My dad joined the National Guard in 1968—just out of high school at the height of the Vietnam War—and during basic training became enamored with the performance of the 7.62x51mm NATO. 7mm-08 vs 308. Rigby renamed the 7x57mm to the .275 Rigby, and Holland & Holland had a .275 H&H Magnum in 1912, months prior to the .375 H&H Magnum; the 7mm bullet diameter was here to stay. The 308 is actually the commercial designation of the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. Looking at sheer availability, you can’t really get more popular than the .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, and no 7mm will compare with the volume of ammo available. Wildcatters had been necking down the .308 Winchester to 7mm for years, but for reasons that aren’t totally clear, no company had ever standardized a 7mm cartridge based on the .308 until the Remington Arms Company released the 7mm-08 Remington in 1980. Jon Sundra, who’s been writing articles longer than I've been alive, is one. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. When it comes to penetration, velocity is not king; mass and sectional density are both more important. Most conventional ammunition will top out at 175 grains, though, unless you’re looking at a serious long-range setup. was born. On the other hand, the .243 has less recoil and (usually) a flatter trajectory at common hunting ranges. Velocity is important when deciding which caliber you want to carry out in the field because the higher the velocity you have, the less impacted your round will be by environmental factors such has the wind, rain, snow, sleet, or gravity. All three are far more accurate than I am… and I get moa from the entire group. For this reason, the .243 Winchester has less recoil and a flatter trajectory at typical hunting ranges. Since the new .308 Winchester essentially duplicated the performance of the .30-06 while using a smaller case, the new cartridge was a big hit with many American hunters and shooters. The new .243 Winchester really caught on with a segment of the hunting population that wanted a flat shooting and light recoiling rifle cartridge that was still powerful enough to hunt big game like deer and pronghorn. Very few of the deer I've killed with these three were over 300 yards. Sectional density (SD) is a measure of the ratio of the diameter of a projectile to its mass. On the other hand, the heavier and larger diameter .308 Winchester bullets have more frontal surface area, more resistance to wind drift, and carry more energy down range. At the same time, the .308 Winchester uses larger diameter bullets than the other two cartridges. The rifle I was looking at was a Ruger 6909 youth model for both my wife and step daughter to share. They are both great entry level cartridges for new hunters as well as smaller framed hunters like women and children. It would also make an excellent cartridge to take to Africa, as the author says. I think most hunters would agree that the .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester are all excellent cartridges for hunting a wide variety of game. vs. .340 Wby. Go with the .308 Winchester as there are many more quality rifles available in this cartridge than the .243 Winchester or 7mm-08 Remington. While we hunters often feel the need to quantify every little aspect of our ammunition, I feel confident saying that if a bullet of either caliber—if of appropriate sectional density and construction to ensure proper penetration—is placed in the vital organs, few game animals will be able to tell the difference. The .243 Winchester cartridge most often uses bullet weights in the 55-115 grain range, with 55, 87, 90, and 100 grain bullets being the most common. If you’d like to read a more detailed discussion on how the .308 Winchester stacks up next to the .30-06 Springfield, read this article: 308 vs 30-06 vs 300 Win Mag: Which Cartridge Should You Be Hunting With? I have a dedicated black bear rifle in the 358 Winchester. The .308 carries significantly more energy downrange than the other two cartridges. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. But what’s in a name? The 7mm-08 Remington and .308 Winchester (but particularly the .308) are both better hunting rounds for really big game animals due to their advantage in frontal surface area and kinetic energy. Not surprisingly, all three cartridges have virtually the same case capacity. Most of the highly regarded bullet types specifically designed for big game hunting are available in those three cartridges as well like the Barnes TTSX, the Hornady ELD-X, GMX, InterLock, and SST, the Nosler AccuBond, E-Tip, and Partition, the Remington Core Lokt, and the Winchester Power Point. I absolutely love the entire family the 308 Winchester has produced! Nothing personal against the 308 Winchester. They are all very accurate, relatively flat shooting, and hit hard enough for use on a variety of game at reasonable hunting ranges. For most hunters, I don’t think the .30-06’s other good points are enough to outweigh the 7mm … Go with the .308 Winchester if you want the cheapest or easiest to find ammo or the .243 Winchester if you’re sensitive to recoil. Though there are some exceptions, but rifles of the same model chambered in each cartridge are virtually identical to each other. The 7mm-08 has about 37% more frontal surface area than the .243 Winchester. For instance, the .308 Winchester isn’t a hard recoiling cartridges by any stretch of the imagination, but the .243 Winchester, and to a lesser extent, the 7mm-08 Remington both have very well deserved reputations for mild recoil. Both offer similar power levels, both are suitable for similar species and sizes of game animals and both make a perfect all-around rifle for nearly all hunting scenarios, save the thick-skinned heavyweights. Mag. All excellent points, thanks for your comment Brian. Just like you’d expect, the .243 Winchester loads have a higher velocity and flatter trajectory than the 7mm-08 Remington loads, which in turn fire bullets at a higher velocity and with a flatter trajectory than the .308 Winchester loads. The 300WM AI mag feed the .284 just fine ( 3.20" OAL with 162 A-max). as well as 90-100 grain bullets for deer sized game with excellent accuracy. I might even go to 175 gr just for the SD, even though I’d be giving up velocity. They’ll also fit the bill for a hunt in Africa or New Zealand. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express, .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. From my experience, big bucks run most of the time when shot behind the shoulder no matter what caliber you use. The table below compares 55gr Nosler Varmageddon (.252 BC), 90gr Hornady ELD-X (.409 BC), and 100gr Winchester Power Point (.356 BC) loads in .243 Winchester to 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tip (.417 BC), 140gr Winchester Power Point (.360 BC), and 150gr Hornady ELD-X (.574 BC) loads in 7mm-08 Remington, and 150gr Winchester Power Point (.294 BC), 165gr Nosler Ballistic Tip (.475 BC) and 178gr ELD-X (.552 BC) loads in .308 Winchester. So where are the major sticking points between the two calibers? 6.5 Creedmoor Maybe it doesn’t need to end, maybe there is room in the hunting world for both bore diameters, but they share so many qualities that hunters end up choosing between the two. Supposedly weatherby SA vs LA action alone is almost a lb. Onsale 7mm 08 Vs 308 Rifle And Best All Weather 308 Rifle 7mm 08 Vs 308 Rifle And It’s tough to pick an accuracy winner out of the three, but it’s very safe to say that all are extremely accurate in the right hands at typical hunting ranges. 7mm isn’t 7mm; it is actually 7.21mm. Thanks for the comment, Additionally, the Browning X-Bolt, Kimber Hunter, Mossberg Patriot, Nosler M48, Ruger American, Ruger Hawkeye, Savage Axis, and Weatherby Vanguard are available in all three calibers. My time with the 7mms has been mostly spent with the 140-, 150- and 160-grain bullets, as they offer the most flexibility. WWII The 7mm and 8mm mausers and 06 were it. It's an all around cartridge because it's good for long … Think 7mm-08 Rem/.308 Winchester, .280 Remington/.30-06 Springfield, 7mm Remington Magnum/.300 Winchester Magnum, 7mm RUM/.300 RUM. The .243 Winchester and 7mm-08 Remington are the two most popular examples of cartridges developed by necking down the .308 Winchester to shoot smaller diameter bullets. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. Reloading components for all three cartridges are also widely available. Compare yourself, you will see the difference. All three cartridge are used in short-action rifles. I could make that same argument here, but I’m not going to. The 7mm-08 uses heavier, larger diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets that have a higher sectional density, more frontal surface area, more resistance to wind drift, penetrate better, and carry more energy down range than the .243 Winchester. John. John. Also, great for deer stand hunting here in MN While shooting suppressed. 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